we're in a competitive environment. by the way, people fly to phoenix and try to talk to our local companies as they look to expand and grow as a possibility of growing -- stuart: how about illinois? we all know that california is in dire financial shape. we know that. but illinois is as well. and illinois doesn't have as good a climate as california does. i mean, weather wise. you go up there and try to bring them down? >> sure, we have in the job recruitment business, you look around the country for where the best opportunities are, but again, you're not just going to sweet talk these companies. you've got to make sure you have the fundamentals right, not just tax policy, but you've got to have great neighborhoods. you've got to have great arts and culture. you've got to be committed to education. you have to have a quality of life that these employees, that they are going to try to recruit are going to want to live in. so workforce development, making sure you have the right people in place, which we're lucky enough